Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Mark Zuckerberg For Spurs, A Campaign

In-Depth Bowl Destination Analysis

Don't worry, Jared. There's a 60% chance it will be warmer than this at the bowl game.

 

With the results of yesterday's games finally in the books, we've got a pretty good idea of where the Cyclones might head for a post-season berth. We'll walk you through each potential destination and the current probability of the Cyclones being chosen by each bowl game.

According to the latest SBNation BCS projections, the top of the BCS rankings should look like this:

Week 14 BCS Standings projections:

1. LSU, 2. Alabama, 3. Oklahoma State, 4. Virginia Tech, 5. Stanford, 6. Boise State, 7. Houston, 8. Arkansas, 9. Oklahoma, 10. Oregon, 11. Kansas State, 12. South Carolina, 13. Georgia, 14. Michigan State, 15. Wisconsin, 16. Michigan, 17. Baylor, 18. TCU.

Which would cause the "Big 5" games to shake out as such:

BCS Championship:  1. LSU vs. 2. Alabama
Rose Bowl:  Oregon vs. Michigan State
Orange Bowl: Virginia Tech vs. LOLBIGEAST
Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma State vs. AT-LARGE
Sugar Bowl: Stanford vs. Houston

With the Big East, ACC, Big 10, and Pac-12 spots all guaranteed to the Rose and Orange Bowls this year, the remaining at-large pick order goes something like this:

Sugar Bowl - (Pick to replace LSU)
Fiesta Bowl - (Pick to oppose Big 12 Champ)
Sugar Bowl - (Gets stuck with Houston)

So unless the Fiesta Bowl goes nuts and decides that they want to burn their at-large pick on Houston (or the Sugar overlooks Stanford in favor of K-State or Oklahoma), it looks like only one Big 12 team will make a BCS game. The Fiesta Bowl isn't going to pick two Big XII schools for their matchup. 

Star-divide

With that in mind, here is the current Big XII Bowl Choosing Order:

1. FIESTA (Conference Champion)
2. COTTON
3. ALAMO
4. INSIGHT
5. HOLIDAY
6. TEXAS
7. PINSTRIPE
8. TICKETCITY (C-USA unable to provide team, defaults to Big 12)

Sadly, there's only so far up this list that Iowa State will be able to climb, but the Bowl committees have a lot of leniency in choosing their teams - in 2009, a 6-win Iowa State team was chosen ahead of an 8-4 Mizzou team by the Insight Bowl committee. Even with that reality, Iowa State won't overtake Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Kansas State, or Texas on this list no matter what transpires next weekend.

THE LONG SHOT - HOLIDAY BOWL  San Diego, 12/28

Chances: 5%

There's a lot that would have to happen for this Bowl destination to become a reality. Iowa State would have to upset Kansas State, Baylor would have to lose to Texas, and a 7-5 Iowa State team would have to be chosen ahead of an 8-4 Baylor squad. (Which will likely depend on how well RG3 bounces back from last night's concussion.) It's not completely out of the question, but I wouldn't tell the kids they're going to SeaWorld just yet.

Probable Opponents: California (7-5), Utah (7-5), Washington (7-5),

THE SEC SCREWJOB - MEINEKE CAR CARE OF TEXAS BOWL Houston, 12/31

Chances: 45%

Here's the most likely scenario. Iowa State loses to Kansas State on Saturday, finishes the season at 6-6, and Baylor & Texas get picked for the Insight & Holiday Bowls, respectively. This leaves the Texas and the Pinstripe left for 7-5 Missouri, 6-6 ISU, and 6-6 Texas A&M. And this is where the Big XII leans on the Bowl Committees to deliver the ultimate Texas Screwjob: convincing the Texas Bowl to choose Iowa State ahead of Texas A&M despite College Station being less than a two hour drive from Houston.

If it works though, it becomes a slick bit of revenge. Mizzou has to go freeze their asses of in NYC on New Year's Eve before departing for the SEC East, (Ha, have fun with that!) and poor little Texas A&M falls from a pre-season Top 10 to a three-hour drive down to Dallas for the TicketCity Bowl. The difference between a Texas Bowl berth and a TicketCity Bowl berth? Half a Million Dollars.

The Big 12 team here goes up against the 6th pick from the Big 10. (7th, if Michigan gets that last At-Large BCS Spot.) The 6th best record in the Big Ten, at 7-5, is.... Iowa. And no, stop thinking that right now. There's no way that a bowl game willingly takes that small of a TV market share. Just be happy that Michigan is the trendy pick to face off with Oklahoma State in the Fiesta, and get ready for someone from this 6-6 mess:

Probable Opponents: Northwestern (6-6), Ohio State (6-6), Purdue (6-6), Illinois (6-6)

 

NYC ON NYE - PINSTRIPE BOWL  New York City, 12/31

Chances: 40%

You'll see a lot of people projecting us into this bowl, because a lot of writers will just rank teams by their records and plug them into bowls. Not the warmest destination in the world, (and NYC on New Year's Eve can get pricey if you don't do it right), but I wasn't joking a week and a half ago when I said we'd even be happy to go to NYC this year. On the bright side, it has the highest payout of any of the lower tier bowls, with a 2 million dollar payout per team. (We do have a scoreboard and a South End Zone renovation to pay for.)

As for a potential opponent... What can I possibly say that hasn't been said about the Big East? There's only one week left in the season, 4 teams are bowl eligible, the entire conference still has the potential to become bowl eligible, and this is still the process to determine who goes to the Orange Bowl:

Cincinnati wins and West Virginia Loses: Cincinnati
West Virginia wins and Cincinnati Loses: Louisville
Cincinnati and West Virginia Both Lose:  Louisville
Cincinnati and West Virginia Both Win: 3-way Tiebreaker decided by BCS ranking

So to pretend we have any idea who might be the #4 pick out of the Big East is just foolish at this point. (Although it'll probably be more like #3, because you'd better believe the Champs Sports Bowl is taking Notre Dame over this hot mess of teams.) Let's just say... Rutgers? They're from New Jersey, right? Sure. Let's go with that.

Potential Opponents: Rutgers, Literally any other team from the Big East.

 

"LOL JANUARY BOWL GAME"  - TICKETCITY BOWL  Dallas, 1/2

Chances: 10%

If we fall past the Pinstripe, we are all but guaranteed a January game in the Cotton Bowl. (And yes, I realize the ridiculousness in calling the Ticketcity Bowl a 'January Bowl Game.') This spot would normally be filled by a C-USA team, but they won't be able to fill the spot, and there's a deal in place where the Big 12 provides the team if C-USA is unable to.

The opponent? The same list of 6-6 Big Ten teams as in the Texas Bowl, only with the #6 pick already taken.

Probable Opponents: Northwestern (6-6), Purdue (6-6), Illinois (6-6)

Poll
What Bowl Game Do We Head To?
Holiday
63 votes
Meineke Car Care of Texas
45 votes
Pinstripe
46 votes
Ticketcity
107 votes

261 votes | Poll has closed

Comment 21 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Can't wait

I absolutely can’t wait to see where we go. I’d love to see us in the Ticket City Bowl but that’s just wishful thinking because it’d be nice to be in a New Years Bowl. I’m thinking the Texas Bowl is the most likely destination. I will say this though that this team SHOULD look awfully attractive to any of the above bowls simply because of the teams we’ve beaten this year in Iowa, a ranked Texas Tech, and, um, hold on it’s on the tip of my tongue. Damn, I can’t remember the third big team we beat. Oops. Anyway, we’ve had some very good wins this year and that should be attractive to one of the bowls.

by rbarnold2626 on Nov 27, 2011 5:11 PM CST reply actions  

Sugar Bowl

Will pick Michigan first. Fiesta will then pick Stanford. Leaving Houston to the Sugar.

by ISUFan22 on Nov 27, 2011 5:16 PM CST reply actions  

FWIW, ISU has never played Ohio State or Purdue

And last played Illinois 40 years and Northwestern 55 years ago. (Despite getting our NAME from a game against N’Wern.)

I’m in the “Anything but Pinstripe” category, even though that would be LOLBIGEAST. I won’t be able to go regardless, but the rest of the family would go to Texas if that’s how things shake out.

(*) Wait a second, this is interesting. Official ISU records say we’ve never played Purdue, but an online site says we played them in 1895. It’s in Purdue’s media guide too. Weird.

by Narrow Right on Nov 27, 2011 6:18 PM CST reply actions  

Followup

ISU and the NCAA both agree on the number of games played (1127 through end 2010), but differ slightly on the win-loss totals, and I believe I know the exact game(s) involved.

Meanwhile, Stassen and the Purdue media guide both say Purdue beat Iowa State 6-0 in 1895. However, cfbdatawarehouse.com says the game was an Iowa State forfeit. Two days after this alleged game or non-game, ISU played Northwestern two days later in THE game that gave the Cyclones their name. And cfbdatawarehouse overall shows one more game played for ISU.

by Narrow Right on Nov 27, 2011 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Peter

FWIW- The Pinstripe is on 12/30, which means one can get out of NYC on NYE day.

Strangely, of the options above, it has the cheapest airfares out of DSM. Hotels, of course, are the most expensive. For my household it would be a wash financially.

Just happy to be having this conversation.

by Peter Tubbs on Nov 27, 2011 6:54 PM CST reply actions  

I just joined

Just because this was so well thought out….

Paul -
Go Sparty! Go Bucks!

by pmeisel on Nov 27, 2011 7:02 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks

and welcome!

Executive Producer - WRNL TV

by CyHawk on Nov 27, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't want the Pinstripe

But I won’t complain at all. I have free places to stay in both Jersey and Brooklyn.

"We're getting drunk today, Rand. Quart of rye each."

by NormanUnderwood on Nov 27, 2011 7:32 PM CST reply actions  

Projections

ESPN Schablach: TicketCity vs. Purdue
ESPN Edwards: Kraft Fight Hunger vs. UCLA
ESPN conference bloggers: TicketCity vs. Northwestern
CBS: Military vs. North Carolina

by Narrow Right on Nov 27, 2011 9:09 PM CST reply actions  

TicketCity vs Purdue / Northwestern

I’d love love love love to beat another Little 10 team.

by rbarnold2626 on Nov 27, 2011 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

what!

Actual analysis, facts and research?! No inside sources! Mix in a swear word at least.

by rudebosco on Nov 28, 2011 12:33 AM CST reply actions  

Tilty-Face Ubb's picks

Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma State vs. BCS

AT&T Cotton Bowl: Oklahoma vs. SEC

Valero Alamo Bowl: Kansas State vs. Pac-12

Insight Bowl: Baylor vs. Big Ten

Bridgepoint Education Holiday Bowl: Texas vs. Pac-12

Meineke Car Care Bowl of Texas: Texas A&M vs. Big Ten

New Era Pinstripe Bowl: Missouri vs. Big East

TicketCity Bowl: Iowa State vs. Big Ten

by __ on Nov 28, 2011 6:51 AM CST reply actions  

Holiday Bowl gets no love

Its traditionally been a great game but has been viewed as a consolation prize by teams that couldn’t get into BCS bowls or lost late in the season. Some voodoo to make it there would be sweet.

by cyke on Nov 28, 2011 8:47 AM CST reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Where the spirit of People's FAC, missed field goals, and the awesomeness of Larry Eustachy lives on forever.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Avatar7057_2
Royce White on Iowa State's Future Without Him
Trailer-park-boys_mr-lahey_small
Friday Confessions Thread
Cyded_by_voices_small
Texas A&M Embarks For the SEC, Immediately Gets Lost
Trailer-park-boys_mr-lahey_small
Friday Confessions Thread
Trailer-park-boys_mr-lahey_small
Official Friday Confessions Thread
Avatar7057_2
Celebrate Big 12 Co-Coach Of The Year Fred Hoiberg's Dreaminess!
Trailer-park-boys_mr-lahey_small
Friday Confessions Thread
Cyded_by_voices_small
ONE AND DONE: White NBA-Bound
Imagesca2ktqk2_small
Not Enough Quality Wins?
Intense1_small
Championship Wrestling, Day 2

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managers

Avatar7057_2 CanAzn

Iowa-state-logo_small CrossCyed

Editors

Cyatdesk_small CyHawk

Trailer-park-boys_mr-lahey_small NormanUnderwood

1983vccyleaning_small KnowDan

Small BettyCocker

Authors

Santa_small ClonesJer

Workaholics_small CyssorMeTimbers

Tornado_small cykosis

Small cylentbutdeadly

Cyded_by_voices_small I am a Cyentist

Small khaal53

-1_small CyForPresident